President Museveni has revealed that National Unity Platform (NUP) presidential candidate Robert Kyagulanyi Ssentamu alias Bobi Wine is a confused young man.
In an interview with Channel 4’s Lindsey Hilsum, the National Resistance Movement (NRM) presidential candidate disclosed that Kyagulanyi is not ideological enough that is why he’s being manipulated by so many foreigner groups.
Below are some of the highlights from the interview:
President Museveni: The person you are talking to is a very experienced person, there are not many things in the world that I don’t know. So when I handle a situation, you should know that I know what I’m doing.
Lindsey Hilsum: So you’re accountable?
President Museveni: No. I am not accountable, but I know what I’m doing. Because I can’t be accountable for what I didn’t initiate. I’m not the one who started the violence. But I defeated the violence. Actually our system automatically defeated the violence. Because I was also not in Kampala, I was away campaigning.
Uganda is not a dictatorial state, it’s not a failed state, this is not Sudan, Libya, or Egypt, it’s Uganda. Uganda where the people are in charge.
Yes, there are some gaps, like the youth group, which is a part of our success. But which needs to be handled in a better way, not the way of violence they want.
Lindsey Hilsum: Do you ever look at Bobi Wine and think, ” that I was like that young man pushing forward trying to bring change?
President Museveni: Which change? Because the situation now is very healthy, because those young people now are talking about politics of identity, of tribes, of religion. So those are our products.
Lindsey Hilsum: So do you feel proud of somebody him?
President Museveni: Bobi Wine is a confused young man. He is not ideological enough. And he’s being manipulated by so many foreigner groups.
Lindsey Hilsum: Which foreigners?
President Museveni: All sorts of foreigners. We monitor them. Bobi Wine in particular is an agent of foreign interest.
But the social group, the youth who feel marginalised, that’s a healthy internal force which we’re working with.
Lindsey Hilsum: Tell me the foreigners.
President Museveni: They’re very many, especially the Europeans, they’re very arrogant. Uganda is very successful, were a very strong system. But because of their own analysis, they think the problem of Uganda is me staying in power, yet it’s an advantage, for as long as it’s done democratically. So we don’t agree.
But because you have that view of yours, when non-serious people come up as opposition to longevity in power, the people in the west dance and rejoice. And they get quite alot of encouragement from the foreigners, the homosexuals.
Lindsey Hilsum: What does homosexuality have to do with it?
President Museveni: They’re very happy with Bobi Wine, they support him. I think they even sent him support.
We can only tolerate homosexuality, but the Europeans promote it.
You think homosexuality is an alternative way of life, yet for us here, we look at it as deviation from nature.
Lindsey Hilsum: What is your connection between homosexuality and Bobi Wine
President Museveni: The connection is some of the constituencies in the West, is that we choose to agree with some things and reject some. They want us to be puppets. They don’t expect us to be skeptical. So anything against us, they jump on it. And offcourse they make mistakes by so doing because they don’t know our situation.
Lindsey Hilsum: Who was responsible for the death of over 50 Ugandans who were shot by state security forces?
President Museveni: The opposition. They are the ones who wanted to organise an insurrection. Supported by the Western forces, they were planning to organise here what happened in Egypt, Sudan and Libya. Encouraged by Western elements; press, diplomats and other elements. Who started the violence?
Lindsey Hilsum: But the violence was sparked off after arresting one of your political opponents, Bobi Wine.
President Museveni: It had been planned. Because here you’re asking, “Why have you not died so many of you in Uganda?”
Lindsey Hilsum: No. I asked, “Why did you think that COVID19 is not finishing Uganda’s population?”
President Museveni: Because we took measures. And some of the measures was, “We shall not congregate.”
Now this agent of foreign, Bobi Wine interest says out of defiance that he will congregate. I have been campaigning myself, for two months I’ve never held a single rally. Not even one. Even when they gather I just sit in my car and wave to them, because I don’t want to kill them.
Bobi Wine deliberately defied, so that he would be arrested, so that they could uprise. And the uprising was defeated. And that was only a rehearsal.
Lindsey Hilsum: Are you not concerned about more violence between now and the election day?
President Museveni: Anybody who brings violence here will be defeated. And I think now the people are more careful
You saw what happened in Washington? You can get people with wrong ideas. That Parliament of America was attacked.
Lindsey Hilsum: Like you, Robert Mugabe always referred to himself as a freedom fighter, do you think he was? He did some good things but he didn’t go until he was forced to.
President Museveni: Robert Mugabe made some philosophical mistakes. He did not look at the role of the private sector. For instance the fight between Mugabe and the Whites.
We had our own whites, the Indians. We’re the ones who brought back the Indians because we realised they are working for us.
The problem of Zimbabwe, even if there was a new person without a new philosophy, they would fail.
Lindsey Hilsum: But you’ll have to leave power someday.
President Museveni: I know. We shall figure it out with my party. The NRM shall determine that. I don’t even need to be in the government. For what? I’m not looking for anything personal.
Lindsey Hilsum: Sometimes the issue can be the person.
President Museveni: Now what am I looking for in power? Unless I’m looking for something personal. Do you think I am looking for money?
Lindsey Hilsum: Do you just think that it’s fine for any leader to solely keep going?
President Museveni: If there’s a mission to be done. In Uganda here, and Africa we have a mission that has to be accomplished. And if we don’t do, we shall become a Latin America.
Lindsey Hilsum: And you’re the only person who can do it?
President Museveni: No. I’m not the only one, but it’s not harmful if I also contribute.
Source: Channel4 news
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