Captain Francis Babu has hailed the act of squeezing Chief Executive Officer (CEO) for Uganda Airlines, Jennifer Bamuturaki by Committee on Commissions Statutory Authorities and State Enterprise (COSASE) as a blessing in disguise for her and the airline.
In an interview with theGrapevine, Capt. Babu started by expressing his heartfelt condolences to the family and friends of the late Gen. Elly Tumwine who succumbed to lung cancer last week and was laid to rest yesterday.
Babu noted that to put it in a nutshell, Tumwine was a great, dedicated man, an officer and a gentleman who had a very neat handwriting that he (Babu) admired.
Speaking about the current situation in the Uganda Airlines, when asked whether the decision to bring back the Airlines company was the right one, Babu, who is an expert in aviation explained that aviation is a strategic industry especially to a country which is landlocked and all they need is good management to run it.
He further noted that the Ugandan Airlines may not be at its best at the moment but it is also not the worst, adding that airlines all over the world have their own shortcomings.
“Airlines all over the world have got a problem of competition and if you look at all Airlines including; British Airlines, Ethiopian Airlines they all have problems, they lose money,” he said.
He added, “Management has to provide services. Very few Airlines make profits even Ethiopian Airlines makes profits and loses.”
When theGrapevine asked him what he thinks about President Museveni’s appointment of the current CEO Jennifer Bamuturaki, Babu asserted that a president is the Chief Executive of a country and by Constitution he has got the powers and actually by Constitution he is the Minister of everything.
“Therefore, he has the right to be able to choose. If he can choose a Chief Justice and a Vice President, do you think he can fail to appoint just a CEO of a sector?”
Babu propounded that what people have failed to understand is that when you have a chairman of a board, they are supposed to advise the President on who is suitable for a certain position.
He divulged, “Now the only problem I see is not the president giving the Executive order but the people who advise him seem to have failed.
“The other thing I see here is if the Chief Executive chooses a board and the board has got its mandate and then chooses the CEO of the Airlines, there is going to be conflict and that conflict is not healthy in the management of the Airline and so somebody should have explained this to His Excellency and not only that, all the other staff because it creates resentment which is totally uncalled for.
“It should have been very simple; the President should have consulted the board that among the people who have applied who do they think is suitable for the position?
“But also, the reason given by H.E is that he received counsel from intelligence from some organisations, which is not very satisfying because before you choose a person, there is something called a judicial substance which has got very qualified people to make that assessment but unfortunately here I don’t think there was an expert who advised the president.”
He however emphasized that nevertheless, Museveni is the president of the country with executive powers and the Constitution and so no one should look down on that.
Babu furthermore contended that the act of COSASE squeezing Bamuturaki concerning her education qualifications was a blessing in disguise.
“She siad she has never received her transcript for 28 years and then Makerere immediately provides it, that is a blessing in disguise and in fact she should not be annoyed but happy.”
Asked if the current bad press will destroy the image of the Airline, Babu revealed that every Airline has got problems but these are management problems which can be solved.
“They say that whenever there is a problem in the management of an organisation, it improves it. I still have a strong feeling after they have passed through this committee and come out, it is going to enhance the image of the airline with good management,” he maintained.
“In my sincere opinion, COSASE is going to help the Airline to enhance its management and grave mistakes that had been made will be corrected.”
Babu however trashed the issue of putting media out of COSASE probe insisting that Parliament should not work in secret.
“Parliament can only work in secret on security matters because you can spill secrets that may bring problems to the country’s National security but other (businesses) should not be kept away from the public.”
Asked if he recommends widening a pool from which they choose leaders of the Airline, Babu told this website that he doesn’t recommend it because they need to train people in Uganda more and more.
“When you look at these other Airlines especially Western Airlines, the training of people is slightly different from ours.”
“For many years, most of the Airlines people came from the airforce. They were already pilots and managers, so they knew how aircraft works and so they were oriented only in management of civilian airline. They were the pool of people who were already trained but we don’t have that pool and so we ought to just start it,” he explained.
BABU SPEAKS ABOUT NRM.
Asked if he would wish to go back to the Central Executive Committee (CEC), Babu noted that he wouldn’t wish to because he was there and he played his part.
“We all can’t be in CEC forever but they always reach out to us whenever there is a problem. There is nothing like wanting to go back to CEC, I have never missed being in the country, I always contribute I don’t have to be in CEC to contribute,” he emphasized.
When we asked him if he will ever involve himself in elective politics again, Babu revealed that where he is right now, all he can do is give his opinion about issues.
“I did my part and I think time comes when one has to sit, and incase he is needed, he can always give his opinion. For example, if you asked me to be an Attorney General the answer is no, but if you asked me to speak about the airline I can.”
Asked if he believes it is timely for Museveni to take over Tumwine’s advice of transition, Babu adduced that a lot of people have failed to understand why President Museveni has stayed long enough.
“The reason is very simple, Uganda unlike these other countries in East Africa has had a lot of turbulences. From 1962 when we got independence, there has been alot of problems. And what happened unfortunately are the conditions of Uganda that have brought Museveni to be our leader for all these years.”
He contended, “Yes, let the president now realise that maybe what he has done is enough and now it is time for him to handover executive powers to someone else. Let him realise that the generation we have is not very comfortable with his group bringing this country to a certain level.
“He has done a good job I must say but it is time to take Tumwine’s advise.”
Babu however emphasized that, that is something they should sit and talk about adding that Uganda’s biggest problem is they don’t know how to debate.
“Instead of debating, people bring personal differences. You find someone having personal differences with Museveni. I want us to separate the differences.”
When we sought his opinion on how internal fights in NRM can be stopped, Babu suggested that the internal fights in NRM were brought when the President went out and started bringing people from other organisations or parties like UPC, JEEMA among others and yet their method of work is different from that of NRM.
“But I think the president also enjoys seeing divide and rule but that is something that is very easy to solve. Everyone wants authority so there are a lot of childish differences.”
He added, “When NRM was starting, people like Tumwine, Salim Saleh, who started it had an ideology of turning this country round, they sacrificed and didn’t even go for money.
“Now, a lot of these other people come to NRM to get positions and money, however, it is something we can solve slowly.”
Babu however concluded that President Museveni should sit down with his people and discuss the leadership of the country.
By Kalamira Hope
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