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INTERVIEW: If Museveni Was A Student Today, He Would Not Get A Degree, Most Heads Of Security Institutions Are Related Or From The Same Village – Besigye

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Four-time presidential candidate Dr. Kizza Besigye has warned that the political and cultural injustice in the country will soon breed violence.

While appearing on NBS TV’S Morning Breeze today, Besigye who was hosted by Simon Kagwa Njala gave an example of the education system saying that it is in a very bad shape that if the president (Museveni) was a student today, he would not get a degree.

Besigye said, “I normally tell people that if Museveni had gone to school today, I mean if Museveni is a student today when he is President, he would not get a degree.

Because his father would never get 6M to pay at University to get a degree. I am sure Museveni would agree with me that the wealth of his late Father Kaguta would not afford him University education.”

The former Forum for Democratic Change (FDC) party president also decried the high level of nepotism in the security system of the country.

Besigye said, “the security Institutions themselves are a problem. Most of the security challenges we have today are a problem of security Institutions themselves. There is a problem of nepotism where you find most heads of security Institutions are related or from the same village. That creates a security challenge to those in service, because, some will say, “let’s leave them with their thing.”

Below is an extract from the conversation between Njala and Besigye:

NJALA: What is the political barometer currently?

BESIGYE: There is one constant; the ever-mounting discontent in the country. Wherever you go, it’s pulpable, because everywhere, people’s lives are becoming more difficult. Those who used to say we sleep, no longer sleep.

NJALA: What does that spell for the opposition?

BESIGYE: There is nothing like Government and then opposition that you think contests for power, one wins and forms Government and the losers form opposition. What we have is a small group of people that dominates the rest.

The artificial categorization of our politics is deliberate to confuse those who are far and inside Uganda.

You are talking about 2021 elections, I was a candidate in 2016, and after elections, I was charged with treason for declaring myself winner. We are going into 2021 and that case has not been heard.

NJALA: Your views are not matching the sentiments where others like Gen. Muntu, Bobi Wine want elections.

BESIGYE: I myself have not said that people should not warm up for elections. I have said that if that election is not going to be of a type we want (free and fair), then we should warm up to it differently. We have an experience that since Uganda’s Independence, we have never conducted free and fair elections.

We celebrated 57yrs of Independence but we know every leader has come into office by force.

For the period under Museveni, courts have concluded that elections under Museveni have not been free and fair. This is the experience of elections in Uganda. We then need to ask ourselves whether elections should be the way they have been or we need new type of elections.

Then there is a question of legitimacy?

One, we have an illegitimate person who violated the Constitution by detaining his opponent to declare himself.

Two, this person who is in office illegitimately, has already illegitimately appointed the new Electoral Commission headed by Simon Byabakama. By the way, Byabakama was my prosecutor on very many funny cases.

Thirdly, this illegitimate president violently destroyed the Constitution and invaded Parliament with his troops in order to procure an amendment to allow him contest beyond 75yrs. Of all the people who have so far shown interest to contest for the presidency, only Museveni is already 75yrs.

Museveni would not have been a candidate if he had not destroyed the Constitution. Now he has already taken 30bn from the Treasury to go around the country looking for endorsement as a sole candidate for 2021.

That said, I cannot go to a Radio Station and talk on space I have hired.

I went to the bush to have free and fair elections, how can I not want elections, but we must declare what type of elections we must have. That is within our power.

We are not going to allow someone who rigged himself into office, violated the Constitution to contest again. That is within our power.

Ending ruling by the gun is not going to happen merely by throwing the ballot paper in a ballot box. This must be well understood.

The first tool people holding power use to subdue people is instilling fear in the public and terrorizing them.

The second tool they use is bribes and favours. Most people are impoverished and when they want to say something or appear critical, they are bribed into silence. Some members of the media too, who are critical in dissemination of information are impoverished and are used to distort information.

The third tool is divide and rule so that we cannot unite.

I am aware that even within the liberation forces, there is lack of clarity on the type of struggle we want. There are some who believe Uganda is democratic; that we have elections where people contest and win and others lose.

This position has been formed by many years of narrative that we need an election to choose a good leader to replace a bad leader. That is not the struggle I am in.

The struggle I know and understand is that we are looking for a better country and the first mission should be to recapture the country and then once we reclaim the country and have power over it, then we can choose and leaders and create the rules.

You asked about 2019 Year Of Action. I wish to report to you that we have been to all the regions of Uganda in the year. In one region, there were attempts to fail us but we managed to get over it.

We are only left with Kampala Metropolitan. We shall come here too. So, we have been out there taking actions geared towards freeing us. Now we are left with taking real actions to end this Junta.

ON SECURITY:

NJALA: Col. share your insights with us on security.

BESIGYE: There is absolutely no doubt that security has been mounting. Sometimes I marvel when the NRM Junta keeps it’s mantra “peace that was ushered in by NRM”.

Peace is not the absence of war. In Uganda, you cannot have peace without justice. The level of injustice in Uganda is way too much; social-economic injustice is unimaginable.

ON EDUCATION: Look at the state and quality of our education. Education is an equaliser. I normally tell people that if Museveni had gone to school today, I mean if Museveni is a student today when he is President, he would not get a degree.

Because his father would never get 6M to pay at University to get a degree. I am sure Museveni would agree with me that the wealth of his late Father Kaguta would not afford him University education.

We have also political and cultural injustice. Anywhere in the world, where there is political injustice, it breeds violence.

Secondly, the security Institutions themselves are a problem. Most of the security challenges we have today are a problem of security Institutions themselves. There is a problem of nepotism where you find most heads of security Institutions are related or from the same village.

That creates a security challenge to those in service, because, some will say, “let’s leave them with their thing.” So, you have problems in recruitment, training and deployment.

The guns that are used to commit murders are all from security agencies.

Then there is a regional security challenge because of Uganda’s aggression and military adventurism.

By Aine Cohen

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Ugandans Who Will Refuse To Sign On ICC Petition To Have M7 Indicted Will Be Committing Treason – Besigye…

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Four-time presidential aspirant, Col. Kizza Besigye has warned Ugandans who are planning to dodge the signing of the petition entitled: “Uganda people’s petition to International Criminal Court” that they will be committing treason according to Article 3 of the constitution.

According to Besigye, all Ugandans are held responsible to fight for their fundamental rights and other rights granted by the constitution.

“Every person has a responsibility of protecting his or her rights, if you see someone abusing your right then you have to deal with that person in courts of law, since the constitution under Article 3 allows you to fight for your rights, Ugandans who have declined to sign on the petition are committing treason,” Besigye said.

He said this at the people’s government offices along Katonga road in Kampala where he officially lunched the signing of the petition that is aimed at compelling ICC to summon president Museveni.

In a meeting attended by Kampala Lord Mayor Erias Lukwago, Ken Lukyamuzi, Leader of Opposition Betty Aol Ochan and other the opposition members, Besigye said that the petition is a universal petition that caters for all Ugandans both in Uganda and abroad who have been victims of Museveni’s torture and his poor governance.

“The petition is for all Ugandans, its intended to bring peace to all, we need Museveni out of power with the help of ICC since he cannot handover peacefully,” he insisted.

“Anybody aggrieved with Museveni’s policies of violating our rights like freedom of speech and expression, freedom of assembly and right to life should provide evidence and join in the signing of petition,” he said.

He further urged all police persons and military to abandon violating commands that are given to them by their Commander in Chief.

“The police should work for Ugandans, they should abandon the violating commands that are given to them by Museveni because everyone is accountable for the crimes they commit, no one will ask for who ordered you. Look at Kayihura now, he is suffering alone though he was working on Museveni’s orders,” Besigye added.

He revealed that the petition will be wired online for all Ugandans both in Uganda and abroad to sign.

“Our petition is going to be wired online and links are going to be circulated for those outside Uganda,” he said. He further urged NRM members who have known the weaknesses of President Museveni to join the petition for a better tomorrow.

“Members from the NRM party who understand the weaknesses of their president should join us because this is about Museveni not NRM. Members of other opposition parties and movements like Hon: Kyagulanyi, Gen. Mugisha Muntu, Nobert Mao and other leaders, join us and we defend our country from dictators,” Besigye rallied.

According to Besigye, the process of signing the will take long period of time since they plan to spread it country wide.

By Josephine Kauma

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Sipapa, Full Figure Are Using M7’s Money To Kill Us: Music Promotors Bajjo, Abitex Cry Out ….

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Abitex and Bajjo addressing journalists

Events promoters Andrew Mukasa alias Bajjo events and Abbey Musinguzi alias Abitex have pinned socialite Charles Olim alias Sipapa and Jennifer Nakaguubi alias Full Figure of using the millions of money given to them by president Yoweri Museveni to kill them.

Bajjo told journalist in Kampala that on Wednesday evening, he survived being killed by armed hooligans holding machetes at Makindye, a Kampala suburb.

“I have audio recordings of that fool Sipapa and Full Figure strategizing on how to finish our lives. I heard Full figure tipping Sipapa to tell his gangs to locate us and kill us using stones,” Bajjo said.

He revealed that when he received an audio from a friend, they decided to run away from Baba TV where they had been hosted for a talk show. He said that when they reached Makindye, a group of people attacked them with machetes and stoned his car. Abitex said that he received credible information from state house that both Sipapa and Full Figure told Museveni that they know Abitex and Bajjo and that they will help him silence them at all cost.

Abitex warned that the act of giving people free money will increase criminality in the country because people will start thinking that they don’t have to work but can always be given free money. Both promotors filed their complaints at Katwe police station. Full figure was not reached for comment since she was not picking our calls.

PROMOTORS LIKELY TO LOSS BILLIONS

Earlier, lawyer Erias Lukwago, who was  representing the two promoters pleaded with High Court judge Lydia Mugambe Ssali to save his clients from losing billions of money and jobs in the coming 2019 festival season. Lukwago submitted that the directive issued by the Inspector General of Police Martin Okoth Ochola stopping his clients from organizing musical concerts will deny them employment since their source of income are the music shows.

Lukwago told court that his clients lost over Shs200m when Ochola stopped their concerts at Busabala, Gulu Lira and other places yet they had already paid all the necessary requirements including security.

The presiding judge Ssali asked both applicants why they didn’t proceed with organizing concerts of other musicians because it seems the IGP only stopped them from organizing Bobi Wine’s concerts.

Lukwago with people power lawyer Shamim Malende tried to plead to Ssali to accommodate their matter before the Christmas festival because it’s the period when his clients work more.

This was after judge Ssali had told them that she was assigned to go to high court criminal division to handle very serious criminal cases.

However, after Lukwago’s plea, Justice Ssali changed her mind and asked Lukwago to take their file back to the registrar so that it can be allocated to another judge which Lukwago refused. Mugambe further advised the applicants to stop exaggerating their case. The judge ordered both parties to submit written submissions instead of oral as Lukwago was proposing. The matter was adjourned to 13 December.

By Jamil Lutakome

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Lawyer Mabirizi Asks East African Court To Halt 2021 Election Preparations Until Their Ruling Of The Age Limit Appeal

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Mabirizi presenting his case before the East African court of justice in Arusha Tanzania

Controversial city lawyer Male Mabirizi Kiwanuka has asked the East African court of justice in Arusha Tanzania to issue a court order stopping Uganda’s Electoral Commission from conducting the 2021 general elections.

Mabirizi submitted to the five justices of this court led by Lady Justice Monica Mugenyi (Principal Judge), Justice Dr. Faustin Ntezilyayo (Deputy Principal Judge), Justice Audace Ngiye, Justice Dr. Charles O. Nyawello and Justice Charles Nyachae that his case is very serious because it raises questions relating to the governance of Uganda’s parliament, executive and judiciary.


The justices of the East African court of justice in Arusha Tanzania

“I will suffer irreparable damages if the application is not granted since Article 3(4) of Uganda’s constitution empowers me to defend the constitution from illegal amendments,” Mabirizi submitted. He told court that after resolving the grievances in his case, the electoral commission can conveniently resume its processes. 

In his defense, the solicitor general Francis Atoke put up a spirited fight and asked court not to allow Mabirizi’s application because it can cause instability in the country and erode constitutionalism.

Atoke argued that halting the 2021 elections will be so dangerous that he doesn’t want to be in Uganda to see what will happen if elections are suspended.

“My Lords, since the applicant pleaded for damages and interests, in my view, court should instead award him damages at the end instead of stopping the elections,” Atoke submitted. In his rejoinder, Mabirizi stated that halting the election process of 2021 cannot cause instability in Uganda as the solicitor general claimed but it will instead instill constitutionalism in the country. He insisted that there is no amount of damages that can adequately compensate the collapse of the rule of law, good governance and disrespect of human rights.

Mabirizi told court that during the passing of the controversial age limit bill in parliament in 2017, Members of Parliament were seriously beaten and their backs broken, and even if they are awarded with damages, their backs can never be healed.  The judges promised to give their ruling on notice. 

However, court declined to strike off the Attorney general’s defense as Mabirizi had applied claiming that his defense was filed out of 45 days’ time as prescribed by the rules of the East African courts of justices. 

William Byaruhanga told court that it was not their intention to file their defense out of time as Mabirizi claimed but the delay was caused by one of their staff who negligently without knowing that the matter was of public importance failed to do her job.

Court also refused the Attorney General’s affidavit sworn by senior state attorney George Kalemera who wanted court to strike out Mabirizi’s case claiming that he exhibited vexatious and frivolous behaviors in the conduct of his petition during the constitutional court hearing and at the supreme court.

Kalemera told court that Mabirizi abused and disrespected justices of both the constitution court and supreme court. In response, the justices agreed with Mabirizi that the AG’s affidavit was scandalous and irrelevant to the court.

The government team led by the Attorney General William Byaruhanga (L), his deputy
Mwesigwa Rukutana (C) and the solicitor General Francis Atoke (R)

Mabirizi ran to the East African court after losing in the constitutional court and supreme court of Uganda which decided that article 102(b) was properly amended and the lifting of the age limit was done legally. The government’s 15 team of legal brains was led by Attorney General William Byaruhanga, his deputy Mwesigwa Rukutana, solicitor General Francis Atoke, Director Civil Litigation Christine Kaahwa, Director commissioner  civil litigation Martin Mwambustya and others against Mabirizi and his assistant.

By Jamil Lutakome

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