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INTERVIEW: M7 Is Not A Joking Subject, We Will Engage, Crush Our Enemies And Defend Our People: ISO Boss Speaks Out On Rwanda/Uganda Standoff And State Of National Security

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ISO boss, Col Kaka Bagyenda

Internal Security Organisation (ISO)  boss, Col Kaka Bagyenda has warned that the country’s security apparatus has the capacity to engage and crush any enemies that might habour plans to distabilise the country.

Kaka delivered the current state of security message to Uganda’s enemies and Ugandan at large during an interview with the Grapevine reporter Hadadi Mubiru at ISO offices in Nakasero.

The security boss said that Uganda’s security organs have been planning for the past 25 years and no one can come out of the blue to distabilise peace of Ugandans. Below is his interview:

Grapevine: Mr. Kaka Bagyenda, can you please tell us the current state security amidst tension with our longtime friend and neighbour Rwanda who closed their border?

Kaka: Ugandans are more than safe that I can assure them. In the Pearl of Africa, we warmly welcome every foreigner. Just like the Chief in Command said earlier, no one can distabilise Uganda.

Grapevine: Any security boss can say such statements. How can you really assure Ugandans that you really mean your words.

Kaka: We have been planning and strengthening Uganda’s security and capacity to crash our enemies for a long time, like 25 years ago. Someone can’t come from a bar or local malwa joint and start threatening our people. A book reader can’t understand a book more than its writer. M7 is the chief in command straight from the bush in 1986 and a master of war that’s why he has managed to rule for all that long despite the many enemies that have tried to distabilise the country. What I can tell you is he will crash whoever will try to distablise the country that man he is not a joking subject.

Grapevine: What is the real cause of the standoff between Uganda and Rwanda that caused the later to close its border?

Kaka: The problem comes from believing in rumours, media diversions and exaggerations. it’s like marrying a woman who believes in rumours, believe me, that relationship can’t last and incase it does, the relationship will be on and off.

Grapevine: Don’t you think both countries are currently losing a lot of revenue?

Kaka: We can still do business with our other neighbours, there is market in Congo, Kenya and other neighbouring states.

Grapevine:  Back to the point of Ugandans being safe, why is the army deployed everywhere? At police posts, police stations, they are seen camping on hills and in busy places yet this is the work of police.

Kaka: That’s their work. They are supposed to defend Ugandans that’s all I can say. If I was a doctor, I would say we are taking the prevention is better than cure strategy.

Grapevine: On several occasions we have been promised crime reports by security agencies which at the end are never delivered. This creates suspicion in hearts and minds of Ugandans who pin some agencies on failing to deliver to their mandate.

Kaka: Most reports that have not been delivered are still being investigated. I would urge Ugandans to be patient and allow us to do our work. The full reports will be delivered because our intelligence departments have the capacity to accomplish its work.

Grapevine: But on several occasions you have been spotted delivering positive results in corruption and smuggling scandals, why have you failed to lay better strategies mainly in high profile crime investigations .

Kaka: Every dog has its own day and every crime has different strategies used. its better you leave that to security.

Grapevine: Don’t you think deploying the army in public will make the force lose its credit and dignity?

Kaka: There are many ways of killing a rat. We have our reason which reason I can’t state in media for now but you never know may be sometime in future I will be able to handle your question.

Grapevine: Is it true that you are keeping some Rwanda nationals in custody as allegedly by Rwanda foreign minister Richard Sezibera?

Kaka: Let them prove this. If they have not moved the matter to the East African community that means there is no proof. I don’t really know what’s wrong with that man Sezibera and why he is pinning Uganda over issues he is aware are not right.

Grapevine: What last message can tell Ugandans.

Kaka: Everyone is safe in Uganda provided he/she is not a criminal and does not engage in unlawful acts.

 

By Hadadi Mubiru

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OPINION: If We Refuse To Bless Others We Will Remain As We Are, Or Worse, If We Are Profiting From Unjust Gain, We Are Heaping Problems And Curses On Ourselves And Our Families – Janet Museveni

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The Bible informs us that ancient Egypt was the political and economic powerhouse of its day. The Pharaoh who was king had unrivaled influence and power over the known world. The Children of Israel who came to Egypt first as guests or refugees of famine, soon had a reversal of fortunes and became the slaves of Egypt for 400 years.

Amazingly as Providence would have it Moses, who was the son of Hebrew slaves, was adopted by Pharaoh’s sister and raised as a prince of Egypt. He received the best education in the Arts, Sciences, Architecture and Warfare. As a young person, I loved the movie adaptation of this story called, “The Ten Commandments” starring Charlton Heston as Moses and Yul Brynner as the Pharaoh Rameses.

In the film, the grandeur and splendor of ancient Egypt is captured in its architecture, science, war machinery and wealth. The only mischaracterization in the film is the casting of the Egyptians as Europeans whereas it is clear from the drawings inside the pyramids, that the original Egyptians were black Africans.

In addition, in 2 Chronicles 8:11, the Bible tells of how Solomon built a palace for his wife, the daughter of Pharaoh, yet he didn’t accord this honor to his other wives or concubines. The Bible also tells the story of the queen of Sheba or Ethiopia who visited King Solomon and gave gifts of gold, precious stones and spices. 2Chron.9:1

All these accounts show that the Africa of antiquity was not only prosperous and wealthy but more so a political and global hegemon.

The question, that I have pondered many times over the years is,”What happened to Africa?”

Africa committed the grave sin of enslaving the children of Israel for 400 years, which returned to haunt the African continent with the advent of the evil trans-Atlantic slave trade. This year 2019, marks the 400th anniversary of the first African slaves arriving in America and the ensuing exploitation of African people. This anniversary is a watershed moment in our history and a time for prayer, reflection and firm resolution as we look to the future

The strongest and brightest Africans were carried to America to serve as cheap labour to build the economies of the western hemisphere. It was African youth and strength that fuelled the Industrial revolution and once it was underway, the Europeans returned to the African continent in search of raw materials and the scramble and carving up of Africa followed. The age of colonialism meant that Africa became a spectator to global and even their own local affairs. African communities were disconnected from each other and from their land. They were forced to grow cash crops that had no linkage to the local needs of the community and only served to strengthen the disenfranchisement of local communities and tie them in dependence to Europe.

Africans were deemed unable to take care of their own affairs and thus began the culture of being told what to do for ourselves. For it is in Africa, that other people tell you what is apparently in your own best interest as though you are incapable of making that decision on your own. I am not one of those who believe that Africa’s problems are all in the past, but I do think it is important for us to understand where we went wrong in order to not repeat history.

My heart’s cry is also going out to parents who are praying for the soul of our country and the future of our children. Parents who understand that the battle we are facing will be won on our knees in prayer. It will not be won through money or donors, it can only be won by sustained and prevailing prayer.

I believe that God has been waiting for Africans to awaken from deep slumber and realize that our greatest obstacles are internal rather than external. Our weaknesses are our own petty and selfish differences. The magnifying of small differences and totally obscuring the many ties that bind us and our historical, cultural and spiritual interests. All that is sacrificed on the altar of personal ambition and ego and the thirst for unjust gain. My prayer is that in this time, Uganda will break out of that vicious cycle and choose another path, the path of doing good, to build our nation by being and doing the best.

Many times, I have felt deep frustration as I wonder what unique solutions or innovations does Africa bring to the world? Do we feel compelled to do what others have not done in order to bring to the table a perspective that is uniquely African and thus take our place among the nations.

Even in the area of agriculture, where we have a comparative advantage and could outgrow and out produce anyone in the world, even there we have not fully harnessed our natural resources and still depend on the rains to grow our crops. Our national parks and natural beauty and wildlife is God given, but have we been good stewards to use these resources to their maximum potential for the good of our communities?

I was quite challenged to learn that when China decided to modernize their economic policies to become a mixed economy, they asked their population to make a nominal contribution to raise the money for this work. Every citizen paid a nominal fee of say 1/- in order to support and start up this work and raise the capital to fund their own programs. The principle here is self-reliance and community ownership of their work and responsibilities as citizens.

The Chinese probably knew that they had few true friends who had their long-term interests for stability and development at heart. So instead of looking outward, they looked inward to their own people. They didn’t wait for “Development Partners” as we often do in Africa, rather they succeeded by building their internal capacity and studied other world systems picking what worked and discarding what didn’t work for them.

There is a story I like to share with women in the country whenever I have an opportunity to do so. I visited Bangladesh many years ago and learned of the story of how a wealthy philanthropist saw an opportunity to help women become self-reliant contributors to their society. This Bangladesh philanthropist knew the power of investing in women and made an initial contribution to a SACCO for rural women. He knew that the rural woman was one of the most marginalized and overlooked members of the society and yet they formed the foundation or bedrock of family and thus national life. So he worked hard to gain their trust and convinced them to begin to take small loans to improve their lives. These women who started out as being very intimidated and scared of taking loans knowing that they could never pay them back, soon became more confident and started prospering. The philanthropist helped the women to form large working groups and as the women borrowed more money and worked hard to pay this money back, the fruits of transformation started to show. They sent their children to school, they built decent homes for their families and their lives changed for the better.

Soon after that, the World Bank came knocking on their door, they had noticed the success of their SACCO and now wanted to invest more money with them and perhaps help them run their banks. The Bangladeshi women considered this offer, but their answer was ultimately, ”thanks but no thanks.” They responded to the officials saying when they were in dire poverty and the banks had this money all the while and never came to help them. Now that they had their own money they did not need anybody’s help!”

That story absolutely uplifts my spirit because it reinforces my belief that real transformation does not come from big International Organizations but rather from simple personal decisions made by ordinary people. Therefore, my prayer for Ugandan families, mothers and fathers, men and women who are working hard to build their families one day at a time is that God will help us to raise children who will become serious, responsible and productive citizens that seek to make a positive contribution to their society. Children who will strive to build their schools, Technical Colleges and Universities, leaving a positive legacy behind instead of strikes and riots that only destroy what has already been built. These children can only come from stable homes built on a solid foundation of prayer.

Recently I was happy to launch the work of a local charity called Hill City Foundation. This organization gives scholarships to bright and deserving students whose families are not able to meet the cost of tuition. In addition, the organization gives mentorship and seed money to young graduates to help guide them as they begin their journey into the workforce. I was so overjoyed as I launched this foundation because it was a sign to me that finally the tide is beginning to turn and Africans are maturing and understanding the barriers to our blessings. If we as Ugandans can heed the commandment to” Love your neighbor as yourself,” we will be able to be a blessing to others & God will in turn bless us.

However, if we continually refuse to bless others we will remain as we are, or worse be diminished. If we are profiting from unjust gain, then we are heaping problems and curses on ourselves and our families. Can you imagine a home that is built with embezzled government funds earmarked for establishing a community school or hospital? You have denied that community a basic need and put your personal needs above those of others. You may succeed in hiding your wrongdoing and may even be well regarded by friends and colleagues who share your mindset, but ultimately we have one Judge who sees and knows all and nothing is hidden from His sight. He is the One who blesses or withholds blessing and therefore we should not delude ourselves. We must raise our children to know they have a responsibility to their family, community and their nation.

Finally, we all need to be reminded that it is God who created Africa and Uganda for a purpose. He lovingly made everything beautiful for His children to enjoy. And I believe He has been waiting for us to choose to become the people that will work hard to develop this beautiful land for the glory of His Name and the good of His people. It is not an easy task by any means, but it is possible. The Bible says we “will live by the sweat of our brow” and that is what we are called to do as far as our country is concerned. But if we pray, He will guide us as He always has and if we are obedient to Him, He will multiply and bless the work of our hands so that poverty and insufficiency will become a thing of the past.

May God bless you!

Maama

Janet K Museveni

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IPOD Is A Complete Joke, You Cannot Have Your Foot On My Neck And Then Say To Me, ‘Lets Talk!’ – Bobi Wine Tells M7

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Kyadondo East Member of parliament, Hon Robert Kyagulanyi Ssentamu alias Bobi Wine has said that Inter Party  Organization for Dialogue (IPOD) is a complete joke and a desperate attempt by Museveni.

The dialogue which was held yesterday at Protea Hotel in Entebbe with its chairman Hon Nobert Mao who is also the president of the Democratic Party (DP). Among the members who attended the meeting was the National Resistance Movement (NRM) chairman president Museveni.

“The dialogue under the Inter-Party Organization for Dialogue (IPOD) is a complete joke. It is a desperate attempt by Museveni and his regime to sanitise the impunity that he presides over in this country,” he said.

The people power revolution leader has encouraged his colleagues not to fall in Mr. Museveni’s tricks,” I encourage all friendly pro-change forces not to fall for this trick! How can we share a platform with a man who has the blood of our people on his hands and is not ready to admit and denounce it?”

He said that if they want to have dialogue with Mr. Museveni, he should first see them as Ugandans not as mere pawns on his chessboard.

“We have never been opposed to dialogue, but our stand has been and remains that it is only free people who can dialogue- PERIOD. If I am dialoguing with President Museveni, he must first of all see me as a citizen of Uganda with my full rights, and not as a slave or a mere pawn on his chessboard! You cannot have your foot on my neck and then say to me, – ‘let’s talk!'” he added.

Kyagulanyi added, “Citizens’ rights must first be respected and upheld. I say this well knowing that these rights are not a favor from any government- they are inherent!! Secondly, the people of Uganda are the true stakeholders and shareholders of this country. All leaders must never forget that. I always tell my friends that the PEOPLE ARE OUR FIRST AND LAST RESORT. Any dialogue that is worth its name must involve them and listen to them.”

The Forum for Democratic Change (FDC) who are also members of the IPOD boycotted the meeting citing brutality and harsh treatment from the police, army and other security agencies.

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M7 Scoffs At FDC: God Gives You Ability To Talk and You Say You Won’t, He Can Take Away That Gift…

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President Museveni warns forum for democratic change (FDC) saying if they don’t want a dialogue, he will go look after his animals.

Museveni said, “Joined leaders of the Democratic Party, the Uganda People’s Congress and JEEMA for the Inter-party Organization for Dialogue (IPOD) summit at Portae Hotel, Entebbe.

We arrived at a raft of resolutions that should help strengthen our multi-party-political dispensation. The resolutions are about funding of parties, the question of independent candidates, conduct of public gatherings, among others.

DP President Nobert Mao was talking of political systems. Our perspective as NRM is that political systems are not an end in themselves. Right from 1912 when ANC was formed in South Africa, our liberation movements have had five aims.”

He added “These were to fight for independence, institute democracy, ensure prosperity of our people through market integration, enforce strategic security through political integration and support the fraternity of the African people.

Politics therefore for us is to articulate these aims, which are critical for the survival of the African race. It is these aims that by 1971 had pushed us to fight Idi Amin even before we had known he was killing people. He was blocking these aims.

Dialogue is a good method of resolving political issues and we believe in it. In 1979 when fighting Amin, we met in Moshi and through dialogue formed UNLF but some people did not appreciate and we had to start again.

If dialogue had been used, Uganda would have avoided many problems. The men who led Uganda to independence were all young except Nadiope and Balaki Kirya. They failed because of arrogance and inability to dialogue. It is amazing to see how they failed.

If I don’t want to dialogue when in politics then I should go to look after my animals. God gives you ability to talk and you say you won’t, he can switch off that gift. I take it as a Biblical command to talk to whoever wants to talk to me.”

He continued “I will conclude with some advice to the opposition. You can do a lot to change the lives of your people even when in opposition. I did a lot to transform the people of Ankole in the years when I was in opposition as a member of the Democratic Party.

I persuaded people to stop nomadism and go to commercial agriculture from subsistence farming. I was reported to the UPC government that I was misleading people to fence farms. But I explained myself to Vice President John Babiha, who gave me a go-ahead.

I am glad I was invited to this dialogue and met my fellow leaders. We can agree on points of convergence and move together, where we do not agree, we understand why.”

By Doreen Menezer

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